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Psychedelic Therapy: Safety, Legal Standards, and Clinician Education

Listen to Dr. Lynn Marie Morski, physician and attorney, discuss the safety, legal, and clinical considerations regarding psychedelic therapy in the U.S.


Episode Summary

In this second episode of the three-part series on psychedelic-assisted therapy, Dr. Lynn Marie Morski, a physician and attorney specializing in psychedelics, discusses various aspects of psychedelics and their integration into healthcare. 


Dr. Morski shares her journey and how she became passionate about educating clinicians on psychedelic medicine. We discuss the current legality of psychedelics in healthcare, safety concerns, and the lack of protocols. Dr. Morski talks about what to consider when choosing a psychedelic therapy provider, emphasizing the importance of training, ethics, and safety measures. We touch on the debate of whether therapists should have personal psychedelic experiences before offering guided psychedelic therapy, and the potential for psychedelics to become part of mainstream healthcare. 


Listen to this insightful conversation to explore the challenges of psychedelic therapy, the potential benefits of psychedelics for women's health, and advice for physicians and patients interested in exploring psychedelic treatments. Learn about the exciting developments in psychedelic research, including the investigation of psychedelics for stroke recovery and the exploration of non-hallucinatory psychedelics.


Key Takeaways
  • The need for clinician education on the use and potential benefits of psychedelic-assisted therapy

  • The legality of psychedelics as medical treatment medicine in the U.S.

  • The need for safety protocols and guidelines in psychedelic therapy 

  • The importance of vetting facilitators and retreat centers that offer psychedelic therapies, and how to go about that process 

  • The debate on whether therapists should have personal psychedelic experiences to have common ground with patients

  • Legal challenges and potential lawsuits that currently limit the mainstream use of psychedelics in healthcare

“There are a lot of things you can do [when choosing guided psychedelic therapy]. But pay attention to your intuition because you are handing over your consciousness to this person. And if you have any doubts in your gut about that, that's going to be setting you up for failure from the beginning." — Dr Lynn Marie Morski 

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Guest Bio

Lynn Marie Morski, MD, JD, is the president of the Psychedelic Medicine Association, host of the Psychedelic Medicine Podcast, and the Director of Education at Unlimited Sciences. She sits on the advisory boards of Psychedelics Today, Cybin, VETS, Inc. (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions), the Oxenberg Foundation, and the Ketamine Task Force.


Dr. Morski received her medical degree from St. Louis University School of Medicine, completed family medicine residency at Mayo Clinic, and did her sports medicine fellowship at the University of Arizona. She later received her law degree from Thomas Jefferson School of Law and is a member of the California Bar.


Transcript

Georgie Kovacs:

Hi Lynn Marie. Thank you so much for joining me on the Fempower Health podcast. Discuss a very important topic, psychedelics. And originally, I've been thinking on Fempower Health, like, what innovative medical topics should I be covering that I haven't yet? And this was one of them. And then it turns out I go to the health conference and there is a panel on psychedelics, and you are on it. And you were so impressive with what you had shared, and I wanted to make sure to have you on the Fempower Health podcast to discuss your area of expertise. And so I so appreciate you making time and joining me today. So before we dive in, why don't you give us your background and how you even got into the realm of psychedelics?


Dr Lynn Marie Morski:

Absolutely. Well, first off, Georgie, thank you for having me. My background is my training is as a physician and attorney in the medical world. My specialty was family medicine, and my subspecialty, which is totally unrelated to anything I do now, but was sports medicine. And then after fellowship in sports medicine, I started working at the VA. And during my years at the VA is when I went to law school. But somewhere in that nine years that I spent at the, and if you can imagine, obviously, I'm seeing service members, and I'm seeing them as they're leaving the service. Generally, I was doing thes